Best 100 Disability Podcasts

Have you ever wondered what it is like to live with a disability? The I Can't Stand Podcast is for everyone who has a question or just wondered about disability. No questions are off-limits any question you have is allowed.Every week Peta will answer any question you have, based on her experiences as a single, 30- something woman who has Cerebral Palsy. more

Nationwide ERISA Long Term Disability attorney explains the complex world of Long Term Disability and ERISA Claims to you. Do not let the disability insurance carrier rob you of your peace of mind with your disability benefits. Nancy has over 39 years of representing the disabled all over the United States. Her law firm The Law Offices of Nancy L. Cavey may be able to help you get the disability benefits you deserve. more

The purpose of the You First podcast is to discuss the rights of individuals with disabilities, putting your rights first. Hosts Keith Casebonne and Maddie Crowley interview knowledgeable guests, account first-hand experiences, and dive into issues of national and global importance to people with disabilities. more

Each month we will be bringing you up to speed with the latest in the world of disability sport, with news, interviews, and disability sporting chat. more

Challenge what you think it's like to live with a disability. Hosts Dylan Alcott and Angus O'Loughlin speak to people living with disabilities about their lives and ask them the questions you thought were off-limits. You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll learn something. more

Meet people with disability from across Queensland, and discover their stories, achievements and contributions to their communities. We're talking to people with disability doing innovative things and reaching for the stars in sport, business, the arts, and every aspect of life. You'll hear from the inner city, our major regional centres, and our state's rural areas. Join us as we celebrate Queenslanders with disability and work towards improving access and inclusion for everyone, of all abilities. more

The DODD Podcast, hosted by Nate Turner, shares resources, stories, and information for Ohioans with developmental disabilities. more

Stories and profiles of compelling people impacted by all degrees of vision loss and disability. Plus, Reid explores his own experiences becoming blind as an adult in his unique way pairing his words with audio and sound design. more

The team from Livingwell - Disability Resource Centre bring you information about the services that they provide. more

Chris Ford from the Disabled Persons Assembly (DPA) covers news and issues.

Competitive employment and empowerment for people with disabilities is the emphasis of this show. Broadcast live and captioned in real-time for individuals who are deaf and hard of hearing and discusses how people with disabilities can secure career opportunities and how employers, organizations and individuals can support employment and empowerment of people with disabilities. more

Produced and presented by people with disabilities covering issues such as housing, discrimination, difficulties with public transport, self-advocacy and other related issues. more

Disability issues with the Boldness radio team. The Boldness is a Disability Current affairs program aired on the third and fifth Wednesdays of the month at 6 pm on 3CR.The Boldness is about standing up for your disability rights instead of waiting for some well-meaning person to give them to you. more

Welcome to the Breaking Blindness Barriers group. Our discussions, presentations, and activities are aimed at finding and sharing techniques and strategies for getting rid of the pesky barriers to full, productive, and independent living, that we as people who are Blind or Low-Vision face far too often. more

Join Deanne Gagne and Andrew McQuaide as they discuss topics impacting Rhode Island's Disability Community and share practical ways you can use information from each episode in your life.Disability News You Can Use is sponsored by Advocates in Action Rhode Island - Rhode Island's statewide self-advocacy organization. more

The Employment Committee of The American Council of the Blind presents: Let's Get to Work a monthly podcast wherein we interview visually-impaired people with unique career paths. We know about inaccessibility, we have heard all about barriers to employment, we've read the statistics. But what about success? It's alive and well, and comes in all forms! This is a podcast where we celebrate that. Wherever you are on your career path, there is hope. Let's get to work! more

Welcome to the ACB Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Track of the ACB Focus Podcast Series. ACB embraces Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in our Core Values. ACB welcomes members of all nationalities, ethnicities, sexual orientations, religions, political affiliations, disabilities, ages, genders, gender identities, and other minority groups to fully respect and represent the blind and visually impaired community in all the work we do. more

Where advocates harness the power of storytelling to build community with their peers and hope to develop empathy in others. A team of disability advocates creates this True Tales podcast to share personal stories by disabled storytellers and add their voices to the growing community of podcast listeners. more

The Major Pain podcast is a collection of interviews from people living with chronic illness and disability. Our goal is to spread awareness, empathy, and community around experiences often lived through in isolation. Through sharing these stories important themes have become increasingly apparent, including the dangers of medical gaslighting, the importance of self-advocacy, and the fact that none of us are in this alone. more

A half-hour radio show providing critical coverage of disability issues and bringing the insight of the grassroots disability movement to the general public. Pushing Limits advances the voices of people who live with disabilities. It is produced by a collective of media makers and activists who themselves live with disability. more

CripChat Australia is produced and delivered by Australian Disability It aims to educate, entertain and inform the community how they can help us create a more accessible and inclusive society for people with disabilities, their friends, and family.Hosted by Jonathan Shar, David Daoud, Ibby Dee, David Cunningham (producer) , Quang Nguyen and Joseph PopovWe're for a Fair, Dignified and Equal Society for All People with Disabilities more

The podcast network that speaks to people with chronic illness, invisible illness, disability, and chronic pain.'Explicitly Sick Podcast' with Monica Michelle '[Human]care Podcast' with Eva MinkoffBe Kind. Be Gentle. Be A Bad Ass. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. more

Spastic Chatter is a platform meant to feature stories from those in the Cerebral Palsy community. I, Whitney Bailey will be getting together with individuals with CP (Like Myself) to have a kind of uncensored chat if you will about what it's really like to have this type of disability. more

The DisabiliTEA video podcast hosted by disability attorney, Anjel Burgess, is a candid discussion of all things related to disability. Anjel Burgess is Managing Attorney at the law firm of Burgess & Christensen. Burgess & Christensen specializes in helping adults and children across the United States to receive social security disability benefits. more

Join Elena and Brooke as they dig into topics surrounding life and love after Spinal Cord Injury from their unique perspectives as caregivers. Follow them as they strive to 'Empower Women Supporting Their Partners In Chairs' while educating and promoting awareness surrounding disabilities. more

A podcast about advocacy for animal rights, for rights of people who are elderly, disabled (including those with mental illness), for G.L.B.T. (and their families) rights, & to inform about what's going on politically & economically locally, nationally, and worldwide. more

Join us for weekly episodes as we redefine and discover what it means to have a disability, focusing on our hometown community in Dearborn, Michigan. Listen to our guests share their stories about living with a disability - celebrate their success, achievements, and understand their hardships. We hope to offer a platform for people with disabilities to share their stories and get various types of perspectives about disabilities in Dearborn and the larger Arab American culture in the hopes that we can raise awareness about disabilities among Arab Americans. more

S.O.A.R. is a programme run by Nga Kete Matauranga Charitable Trust which aims to better understand and grow awareness and knowledge around working alongside whanau with disabilities and to appreciate more fully the service options and needs they have to live full, enriched lives. more

The official podcast for the Australian Disability Clearinghouse on Education and Training (ADCET). ADCET provides information, advice and resources to disability practitioners, academics, teachers and students on inclusive practices within the post-secondary education sector. more

This podcast is for those who are open to hear about my life from the perspective of someone with a physical disability. It will highlight my personal experiences and aim to build knowledge and challenge assumptions. My hope is that at least one person listening can become aware of the impact society has on someone with a disability. It is important to me that we recognise the need for change and begin to accept people from all walks of life. more

A weekly, half-hour radio podcast covering a wide variety of topics of interest to the visually impaired.

Tuesday Topics is a weekly exploration of a single topic from a blindness perspective brought to you by the American Council of the Blind. Co-hosted by Paul Edwards and Rick Morin, this two-hour podcast features panelists and live questions and comments from the zoom audience. We hope to fully explore any topic we cover! Divergent opinions are encouraged! more

The Pulse is a podcast discussing issues impacting the disability community across Canada on AMI-audio. Host Joeita Gupta, who is blind, also works full-time at a nonprofit in Toronto, specializing in housing/tenant rights. more

'The SDA HOUSING Podcast' is brought to you by the team at NDIS PROPERTY AUSTRALIA. Whether you are listening as an Investor, Provider, Builder, Developer or  Participant, we cover a wide range of topics informative to any audience. We discuss how we work with all stakeholders in sourcing and delivering new dwellings which are SDA compliant, to general information about the NDIS, and statistics about Specialist Disability Accommodation (SDA) in the NDIS sector. more

Welcome to On Our Terms, a podcast of the European Network on Independent Living featuring diverse perspectives on independent living and disability activism. Join disabled podcast host Áine Kelly-Costello for a series of interviews with disabled people from across Europe. more

The Independent Life is a podcast where we explore the services, issues, ideas, and people who will empower you to become the best version of yourself imaginable, attain your goals for Living Independently, and to serve others to your fullest potential. more

The Accessible South Africa website is an initiative of the Warrior On Wheels Foundation. It has been created to showcase universally accessible tourism in South Africa. Here one can find conversations around the challenges and joys that travelers with disabilities face, and discussions with industry leaders on best practices. more

This podcast series takes a fresh look at important and often under-reported issues affecting people in Arizona who are aging and those living with a disability. Meet some unique individuals, hear their stories and understand more about organizations that are dedicated to helping them make the most of their lives. more

Adjusting the Sails is a podcast aimed to discuss the lives and specific challenges children with special health care needs and other disabilities and their families, caregivers, and service providers face, and how to manage those challenges. The podcast will serve as a platform for all disability-related topics to be discussed and as a mediator between families and caregivers to share their stories and experiences. more

The Water Prairie Chronicles is a podcast created to support parents of children with disabilities and special needs. The podcast episodes explore the stories of people who have navigated the special needs path for themselves or their children as well as those who work to support special needs families. Our goal is to provide virtual mentors who can support, encourage, and educate parents to help provide a more inclusive world for their children to live in. more

A relatable podcast for the blind and visually impaired community. Join your hosts Sayyida Victoria and Joe Fleeks at the table, as they explore a variety of blind and visually impaired related topics and issues, including, but not limited to: social issues, hot topics, what's happening in BVI communities everywhere, BVI relationship talk, special guest sharing more BVI news, simple chit chat, and so much more! You never know who will be joining your hosts at the table! more

Share The Wisdom is produced by Wisdom 4 The Blind, a dynamic non-profit organization dedicated to providing much needed information on tools, tips and services for blinded or visually impaired Veterans and/or their caregivers. Podcasts are hosted by Doug Cram, Vice President of Wisdom 4 The Blind, a blinded veteran that served in the US Army. more

Welcome to the 'Through Our Eyes' podcast by the Pediatric Retinal Research Foundation. We are a community of visually impaired young adults talking about what it's like to navigate through high school, college, career, and beyond. We tap into our experiences and cover a wide range of topics providing you with actionable tips and strategies you can implement in your own life. more

Welcome to VISAbilities, Visually Impaired Seniors' Abilities. Each week we discuss topics of interest to people with either long-time or recent sight loss or blindness. more

Welcome to the Audio Description Track of the ACB Focus Podcast Series. The Audio Description Track contains programming that involves the accessibility of the visual images of theater, television, movies, and other art forms for people who are blind, have low vision, or who are otherwise visually impaired. more

INNERSIGHT FREEDOMFrank Perino - HostSuzanne SUZLADYINNERSIGHT Means FREEDOM Advocates for the Disabled!INNERSIGHT FREEDOM fights for Independence, Equality, Total Accessibility, Enforcement and Disability Rights!Millions of us who are disabled, would like to serve our country but can not because there are too many obstacles in the way. People are forced to go in nursing homes and lose their homes, money, jobs, possessions, and many have contracted COVID and died when they could have been safe in their own homes. Guide Dog Schools are not licensed to train dogs and thousands are denied every year with no law to protect the disabled and the schools keep the money they solicit from the public. There is no enforcement on accessibility for the disabled and if you apply for a job there is no equality and the materials to perform the job are not there for us the way they are for everyone else. We urged President Biden to sign an executive order to mandate the agencies that are supposed to help us to raise money to remedy these issues, and therefore taking the burden off the federal government. We the disabled can volunteer to help the agencies raise the money and INNERSIGHT INC has many ideas how this can work without asking the government for more money. more

This feed provides updates from the American Council of the Blind on its advocacy efforts.

A podcasts showcasing adaptive and disabled sports direct from the top disabled sports stars in the world!

Disability rights are the next frontier in civil rights. We believe education is the key to building an inclusive society and ensuring that all students are given an equal opportunity. The Inclusive Education Project Podcast, hosted by Special Education and Civil Rights attorneys, Amanda Selogie and Vickie Brett, offers a fresh, smart perspective on what it takes to truly make our educational systems and communities inclusive. more

Joni and Friends envision a world where every person with a disability finds hope, dignity, and their place in the body of Christ. Founded by Joni Eareckson Tada who was left a quadriplegic in a diving accident at 17 years old, the ministry has grown to serve thousands of people impacted by disability worldwide through Wheels for the World, Family Retreats, the Christian Institute on Disability, and inspiring television and radio programs. more

CFRI's CF Community Voices is a video podcast series created by and for the cystic fibrosis community.

Have The Nerve is a podcast brought to you by Spinal Cord Injuries Australia and funded by the Australian Government Department of Social Services. Join host, Susan Wood, as she talks you through everything to do with disability. more

A podcast telling the stories of those affected by a fatal muscle-wasting disease, Duchenne muscular dystrophy (DMD), that robs children of their ability to walk by the age of 11, the ability to raise their arms by their teenage years, and eventually their lives in their early 20s. more

The Parkinson's Experience is a podcast hosted by a Person with Parkinson's (PWP) and based on her daily experiences. Listen in on her journey living with the disease and how she lives her best life with humor, generosity, empathy, and knowledge. Her conversations with experts and patients like you are fascinating and authentic. They cover relevant topics from DBS (Deep Brain Stimulation) to exercise to diet to medications to much more difficult subjects like personal relationships. more

Radio Eye is a reading service for people who are blind or have other disabilities that make it difficult to read printed material. Grocery Show is a weekly half-hour program broadcast on Wednesdays, including readings of local grocery stores ads such as Kroger, Meijer, and Lucky's. This is produced by Radio Eye under the Chafee Amendment to the Copyright Act which states that authorized entities that are governmental or nonprofit organizations whose primary mission is to provide copyrighted works in specialized formats to blind or disabled people. more

The N'Courage & N'Spire Podcast is a podcast hosted by Durell Peart. Durell is a speaker, artist manager, and music business consultant. He is also an advocate for those living with a special need because he was born with a disability called Cerebral Palsy. The podcast is going to cover what it's like for Durell as well as others who live with a disability, music business educational topics, and industry professionals that help indie creatives build a successful music career and people with stories that N'Courage & N'Spire Durell. more

Join Special Needs Jungle's Renata Blower, Tania Tirraoro and team, in conversations about current issues and interesting aspects around special educational needs and disabilities. The team will be chatting with a variety of voices from the world of SEND, explaining, exploring and educating on everything you need to know. more

Disability and Progress bring you insights into, ideas about and discussions of disability topics, hosted each week by Sam Jasmine with research assistant Charlene Doll. The goal of this show is to keep you informed about what's new and how it relates to you. more

Unite 2 Fight Paralysis exists to unite and empower the international spinal cord injury community to cure paralysis through advocacy, education, and support for research. The podcast includes interviews with the leading scientists, researchers, and advocates who are feeding the movement we need to cure paralysis of spinal cord injury. more

Kids of color who have ADHD and other common learning differences often face a double stigma. But there's a lot that families can do to address the opportunity gap in our communities. Host Julian Saavedra is a father of two. He's also an assistant principal who has spent nearly 20 years working in public schools. Join Saavedra as he talks with parents and experts and offers tips to help you advocate for your child.Understood is a nonprofit and social impact organization dedicated to shaping a world where the 1 in 5 people who learn and think differently can thrive. more

We record podcasts on assistive technology and products and services which we find of interest. We specialize in providing comprehensive tools for people who are blind and visually impaired to become empowered to maximize the use of their access technology while having fun doing it. more

A safe space for blind and visually impaired indeviduals to share their stories and life experiences.

First impressions can take only 6 seconds to make! But if you're neurodivergent, those quick judgments about you can be misleading. That's where the Beyond 6 Seconds podcast comes in! Join me, Carolyn Kiel, as I talk with neurodivergent entrepreneurs, creators, and advocates & more about their lives and identities. Their stories shatter misconceptions, break the stigma and showcase the vibrance of neurodiversity. more

Curated by a fellow special needs mom in the trenches, The Rare Life features Madeline's own experiences and takeaways as she parents her son Kimball who was born with several major birth defects due to his extremely rare genetic disorder, as well as conversations with other parents who share their own advice and stories of loving a child with medical complexities. more

The most comprehensive resource for assistive technology, accessible devices, blind and low vision technology, iPhone demonstrations, success stories, job insights, college and career pathways and all with a blindness perspective. Follow to get updates. more

Tech Talk is a podcast and radio show for blind and partially sighted people who are interested in accessible technology. Find out about the latest products from specialist equipment to off-the-shelf solutions. more

Host Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, President and CEO of Safe Toddles non-profit discusses safe mobility for learners who were born blind and visually impaired. In 2021/22, I worked with co-host Kelvin Crosby. Together we interviewed belt cane users and people who grew up blind without belt canes. I also read several of my blogs that discuss the research outcomes of using belt canes aloud. I discussed with them their recollections of growing up. and walking before, during, and after obtaining orientation and mobility instruction and mobility tools. more

Join speech-language pathologists Rachel and Chris as they discuss supporting complex communication needs with alternative and augmentative communication (AAC) and assistive technology! more

The Heard & Empowered podcast is where the blind and visually impaired (BVI) community finds job inspiration, career opportunities, and a path to success. Presented by National Industries for the Blind a leader in job creation for BVI individuals this podcast is your go-to resource for thriving professionally in a sighted world. Join the host, Dr. Hoby Wedler, every week on Wednesday, as he and his guests dismantle stereotypes, offer expert advice, and share success stories to help you build a fulfilling career and an enriching life. more

Local talking news for the blind and visually impaired from ESTN Podcast, brought to you by British wireless for the Blind Fund streamed service. more

Shining a spotlight on the blind and visually impaired in Pennsylvania and what is important to us.

'The Unseeing Critics: The Hilariously Insightful Podcast!'Are you a podcast enthusiast that enjoys comedy, witty banter and engaging discussions. We specifically aim to connect with individuals who are blind or visually impaired, and those who appreciate the unique perspectives of individuals who experience the world differently. more

Win Charles and Danielle Coulter come together for the first time to teach you about CP with their Ph.D. A Diary a fashionista to learn about CP to get your Ph.D. in CP with you life stories of cerebral palsy. more

I'm Millie and chronic illness sucks but you're not alone it! Here I chat every Wednesday all about my experiences with my own chronic illness, chronic fatigue syndrome. I cover lots of topics so it's not just for those with CFS. I'm here to bring awareness and support. Chronic illnesses are often very isolating so I'm hoping to brighten your day and show you what you're going through is valid and there are others. Showing the good and the bad of everyday life, sharing tips and tricks to manage and personal stories along the way. Sit back, relax and get ready to join in on the tired society. more

Every Wednesday from 10:15 iKwekwezi FM dedicates a slot where it meets and talks to people living with disabled. Insights, advises and wisdom is share to the various communities. more

The purpose of this podcast is to have the uncomfortable conversations about diversity, equity, and inclusion that we all need to be having to PIVOT towards positive social change. more

What happens when you lose something you thought you'd always have? What happens when the thing you lose is one of your senses? Bet Kline is deaf. That wasn't the case a year ago. Now that her life has been upended, she has to figure out how to carve out a new path for herself and navigate her way down it. Easier said than done. more

News, views and information for people who are blind or partially sighted

We believe education is the key to building an inclusive society and ensuring that all students are given an equal opportunity. The Inclusive Education Project Podcast, hosted by Amanda Selogie & Vickie Brett, offers a fresh, smart perspective on what it takes to truly make our educational systems and communities inclusive. Tune in each week as they share insight on topics ranging from education reform to advocating for equal rights for all students & participating in modern activism. They offer user-friendly resources to help you & your family navigate the educational playing field. more

Real-world answers to all your questions about dyslexia and ways to help your child are exactly what you get when you tune into the Literacy Untangled Podcast with your host, educator, and dyslexia interventionist, Jennie Sjursen. Her specialty? Breaking down the complexities of dyslexia into everyday language, strategies, and action steps. Tune in, get inspired, and discover why parents across the globe reach out to Jennie for advice and support on all things related to dyslexia. more

Hosted by Michael Gillan Peckitt, who resides in Kobe, Japan, the Disability News Japan Podcast is News website 'Barrier Free Japan's podcast, a weekly digest of some of the news about disability in Japan in audio form. New episodes will usually available every Friday at 6am Japan Time. more

This podcast is audio tutorials and demos of amateur radio equipment and software to benefit Blind Ham Radio Operators. more

Our 'Inclusive Designers' Podcast is a collaborative forum for designers to share creative ideas for different human conditions. Advocacy, student showcases, and of course design, are all included in these podcasts. more

Leader Dogs for the Blind empowers people who are blind or visually impaired with the tools for safe and independent daily travel. Our goal is to educate, advocate, and share real life experiences of those with blindness. Come learn, laugh, and grow with us. more

Yes, we both are living with completely different forms of Multiple Sclerosis (Dan's has RRMS, Jennifer has SPMS), but we have been happily married for nearly 16 years. Married AND happy while we both live with the same chronic illness? Take it from us: It all IS possible. OK, so it's not all sunshine and rainbows. Check in with us every other week as we have conversations about our experiences, insights and perspectives on pushing through the constant challenges and storms of daily life with (and without) MS. more

Parenting: Impossible The Special Needs Survival Podcast is a podcast dedicated to giving compassionate advice for all stages of life. more

'Navigating Life with Vision Loss' is an AINC original podcast. In this weekly podcast, we answer your questions on a variety of topics surrounding vision loss. Need to know what to do in standing up for yourself? Wondering how to find a counselor or therapist? Do you need to know how to fill out patient forms in a crowded doctor's office? This show is for you. We're giving a voice to the challenges faced by people with blindness or vision loss. We're here as a resource for you, your family, and your friends. more

David Figueroa shares his journey of living with CP, how he got into fitness and much more! He is a former 3 sport athlete, motivational speaker and teacher that takes pride in advocating for those on his podcast, his community and around the world. Some topics covered are self care, dating, fitness and motivation as highlighted by guest appearances! more

Discrimination is one of the biggest barriers to recovering from and living well with mental illness and disability. Sit down with Vanessa every week to unpack some of the day to day challenges of living with mental illness and explore strategies for facing them with grace, humor and knowledge. more

PTI Nebraska discusses early intervention, special education, health care needs and other topics parents of children with disabilities might encounter. more

We are two occupational therapists talking about all things sex. We are breaking societal views on disability to talk about sex from all angles. more

AT Banter's goal is to provide a balanced and entertaining look at AssistiveTechnology, Accessibility, and its importance in people's lives. Follow our podcast to get updates. more

Playback is a free monthly audio magazine for visually-impaired people. We cover a wide range of subject matters from sport, technology, music, etc. Our contributors come from all over the UK and the magazine is put together at our purpose-built studios in Glasgow. more

The STRIVECast is a new podcast brought to you by the team at STRIVE in South Portland, Maine bringing you engaging, hilarious, and thoughtful conversation through one interview week by week. Co-hosted by two young men with Down Syndrome, the STRIVECast aims to change the voices we typically hear on the radio and through podcasts, as well as to provide meaningful dialogues with all sorts of public figures in our world. We are very proud to be both hosted AND edited by people with disabilities! more

So, you're blind. Can you sing? Can you play an instrument? Can you act? Can you dance? Of course, you can! Join Lizzy Muhammad-Park and her special guests as they pull back the curtain on their successes and struggles as blind people in the performing arts. Be educated, be challenged, be entertained, and be empowered to join us as we work together to make a Scene Change for the blind. Presented by the National Federation of the Blind Performing Arts Division more

An hour podcast we will share our stories, feelings and emotions on the journey of raising a child with down syndrome. We will also connect with other parents to share their wisdom and thoughts and experiences. more

A podcast centered on disability justice, accessibility, and independent living hosted by the Eastern Oregon Center for Independent Living. more

Weekly podcast about mental health, wellbeing and disabled people. Life stories and solutions with a friendly touch for listeners around the world. more

The core mission and purpose of the VR Workforce Studio are to offer important compelling information and stories for Individuals with Disabilities (IWD). The podcast is produced at WWRC, a comprehensive vocational rehabilitation center that serves over 300 IWD on any given day helping them prepare for employment. more

Uniquely Human: the Podcast expands the conversation on autism and neurodiversity by amplifying the voices of autistic individuals and thought leaders in providing insightful, cutting-edge and practical information about the autistic experience. Hosted by Barry Prizant and Dave Finch. more