Best 80 Music Concert Podcasts

'The Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast,' the official Grateful Dead podcast, is a series devoted to exploring the music and mythology behind one of the most enduring, progressive, and influential bands in the history of recorded music. The podcast's tagline is 'For The Committed And The Curious,' as episodes will invite new fans to explore the band's enormous mythology in digestible chunks and enlighten life-long Dead Heads about corners of the band's history they never knew existed. No topic will be off limits on 'The Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast' as hosts Rich Mahan and Jesse Jarnow explore the band's outrageous history, innovations, and impact from 1965 to today. more

Undermine is the definitive Phish podcast. New season coming soon, building on what we've done—seasons on Phish's genesis in the 1980s, the Phish community, the Baker's Dozen, and Fall '97. Through deep-dives into the music, shows and songs; interviews with people who were there; and discussion about Phish's lasting impact. Undermine is presented by Osiris Media. more

a weekly hour of the best live Grateful Dead music

Exclusive, Intimate and Historic Live Concerts of your best Artists!

WXPN's live performance and interview program featuring music and conversation from a variety of important musicians more

For over 30 years, Mountain Stage has been the home of live music on public radio. Produced by West Virginia Public Broadcasting, each two-hour episode features performances from seasoned legends and emerging stars in genres ranging from folk, blues, and country; to indie rock, pop, world music, alternative, and beyond. Follow @mountainstage more

Jrodconcerts: The Podcast consistently ranks in the top 100 music interview podcasts on Apple Podcasts and has hit #50 out of 100,000 on Spotify! This award-winning show (W3 Awards 'Best Music Podcast') has hosted legends like Judy Collins and Mary Wilson of The Supremes, alongside today's hottest artists like Lainey Wilson, Morgan Wade, and Maggie Rose. With over 800k downloads, tune in to hear insightful conversations with your favorite musicians, actors, and more! more

Podcast from a group of avid concert goers & music lovers focusing on Music, Culture and Lifestyle. Welcome to the Concert Crew Podcast!! more

This Pearl Jam podcast revisits the best live shows in their 30 year history. From breaking down every setlist to telling the stories from every era, we provide comprehensive insight into the history of one of the best live bands to ever do it. But most of all, we're here to preserve the memories from your favorite shows that you've attended. more

Attendance Bias is a podcast for fans to tell a story about an especially meaningful Phish show.

DEAD AIR is a music broadcast hosted by GDRADIO.NET's own Uncle John and provided every Sunday night by WESU Middletown, 88.1 FM. WESU Middletown is located on campus at Wesleyan University in Middletown, CT, and is one of the nation's oldest continuously broadcasting commercial-free stations. The broadcast typically features musical selections from The Grateful Dead, Jerry Garcia Band, Ratdog, Phil Lesh and Friends, The Dead, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann Trio, Legion Of Mary, Reconstruction, Furthur, Dead and Company, The Other Ones, Wolf Bros and even Go Ahead. more

80 minute long free music download compilations which feature intriguingly mixed rock and rock-based music from a variety of artists that in other contexts might be considered incompatible. Genres, rhythms, moods and artists are seamlessly blended together to produce listening experiences you can only dream about finding in traditional radio. BRYHNH includes favorites and new discoveries from both familiar artists and those you wish you'd heard before, downloaded twice monthly free to your computer or iPod. Ranked #7 in The Digital Podcast Top 100 Podcasts for2005 and # 3 Classic Rock Podcast from About.com for 2007. http://www.bestradiopodcast.com more

Growin' Up Rock podcast is a weekly memory trip into the hard rock and heavy metal music you loved in your youth as well as the rock 'n' roll that is creating the soundtrack to your life today. Your host, Steven Michael, along with co-host Sonny 'Hollywood' Pooni speak with newer and established artist while coming up with some interesting music topics and themes centered around the memories and stories of growing up around rock n roll, that keeps your devil horns hoisted far above your head. Sit back, crank it up, and remember why you fell in love with Rock n Roll. Everyone's got a rock n roll story to tell on Growing Up Rock. Proud Part of Pantheon Podcasts. more

Pipeman in the Pit is a music and interview segment of The Adventures of Pipeman Radio Show (#pipemanradio) and from The King of All Festivals while on The Pipeman Radio Tour. Pipeman in the Pit features all kinds of music and interviews with bands & music artists especially in the genres of Heavy Metal, Rock, Hard Rock, Classic Rock, Punk Rock, Goth, Industrial, Alternative, Thrash Metal & Indie Music. Pipeman in the Pit also features press coverage of events, concerts, & music festivals. Pipeman Productions is an artist management company that sponsors the show introducing new local & national talent showcasing new artists & indie artists.Then there is The Pipeman Radio Tour where Pipeman travels the country and world doing press coverage for Major Business Events, Conferences, Conventions, Music Festivals, Concerts, Award Shows, and Red Carpets. One of the top publicists in music has named Pipeman the 'King of All Festivals.' So join the Pipeman as he brings 'The Pipeman Radio Tour' to life right before your ears and eyes.Pipeman in the Pit Podcasts are heard on Pipeman Radio, Talk 4 Media, Talk 4 Podcasting, iHeartRadio, Pandora, Amazon Music, Audible, Spotify, Apple Podcast, Google Podcasts and over 100 other podcast outlets where you listen to Podcasts. The following are the different podcasts to check out and subscribe to:•The Adventures of Pipeman•Pipeman Radio•Pipeman in the Pit•Positively PipemanFollow @pipemanradio on all social media outlets Visit Pipeman Radio on the Web at linktr.ee/pipemanradio , theadventuresofpipeman.com, pipemanradio.com, talk4media.com, w4cy.com, talk4tv.com, talk4podcasting.comDownload The Pipeman Radio APPPhone/Text Contact 561-506-4031Email Contact dean@talk4media.com   The Adventures of Pipeman is broadcast live Wednesdays at 1PM ET and Music & Positive Interviews daily at 8AM ET on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com) and replays on K4HD Radio (www.k4hd.com  Hollywood Talk Radio part of Talk 4 Radio (www.talk4radio.com) on the Talk 4 Media Network (www.talk4media.com). The Adventures of Pipeman TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com). Pipeman in the Pit Podcasts are also available on Pipeman Radio (www.pipemanradio.com), Talk 4 Media (www.talk4media.com), Talk 4 Podcasting (www.talk4podcasting.com), iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Audible, and over 100 other podcast outlets.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/pipeman-in-the-pit--2287932/support. more

Hvězdy, hudebníci, osobnosti všech žánrů, alba a koncerty.

Eventi, appuntamenti di cultura, spettacolo, sport e altro ancora in programma a Nizza e in Costa Azzurra. Solo il meglio, scelto da Antonella Fava nizza24.substack.com more

Roadcase brings you backstage, with long-form interviews featuring your favorite touring artists, performers, and the industry executives who help make it all happen. Delve into the creative process behind live shows and performances, and hear more about the influences, projects and stories of the musicians and professionals -- both on and off the stage. Roadcase strives to provide listeners with informative and entertaining insights into the mind of the artist, their unique perspectives towards touring, and the multitude of challenges faced by performers in today's live events world and beyond.  more

Doz and Chilli podcast about the game Live Listen Erased which puts 3 bands against each other and their decision on who they would see perform Live and never hear again, Listen to every day but never see perform live, and which one is Erased forever more

Features performances by local and national musicians in WMNF's Mike Eisenstadt Live Performance Studio.

All things live music!If you like the show, stop by the Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/Bootleggers.Beware more

Chicago Symphony Orchestra Audio Program Notes are accessible, interesting, and full of information about the works being performed by the CSO as well as the history and personalities behind the music.Download Program Note PDFs at cso.org/ProgramNotes. more

It's the best in live jazz from Cleveland's premiere jazz venue.The Bop Stop at The Music Settlement is Cleveland's premier listening room: an intimate, acoustically pristine performance venue with sweeping views of Lake Erie. WINNER of All About Jazz's 'Top Jazz Club In The United States' 2019WINNER of Cleveland Hot List's 'Best Jazz And Blues' 2017, 2018, 2020WINNER of Scene Magazine's 'Best of Cleveland: BEST JAZZ CLUB' 2015, 2016WINNER of the FOX 8 BUZZ LIST 'Nightlife Spots' category, 2014 more

Don't be afraid of the arts. You too can enjoy it! Don't believe us? Tune in to Front Row to find out about the best shows and exhibitions that will recharge your brain and restore your spirit, as told by the producers, performers and artists themselves. more

Tuesdays, 6 - 7 p.m.Turn on, tune in and listen local to a weekly hour (60 minutes, get it?) devoted to music from the 816 and surrounding areas. Middle of the Map Fest organizer and #kcmusic champion Chris Haghirian and The Bridge's Sarah Bradshaw take a look at what's filling local venues right now while looking back at some old favorites, host live in-studio sessions and talk with some of the people in town that get things done.Connect with ChrisInstagramhttp://instagram.com/chrishaghirianFacebookhttp://facebook.com/concertchrisTwitterhttp://twitter.com/concertchrisEmailconcertchris@gmail.com more

Independent original music from the emerging Boston and New England scene. The entire 2-hour show can be heard live Tuesday nights from 8-10pm ET on 95.9 WATD in the Boston/South Shore/Cape Cod area, and streaming at 959WATD.com. Almost Famous has been recognized with awards and nominations from the Boston Music Awards, The New England Awards, South Shore Living Magazine, Limelight Magazine, and The Massachusetts Broadcasters Association. more

As a die hard Depeche Mode fan for almost 36 years, Depeche Mode: the podcast is a must listen for any fan. Get breaking news about the band and their solo projects. Plus podcasts devoted to the extensive history of the band and their cultural impact. A DM podcast for the fans by a fan! more

SEI PRONTO? SALI A BORDO DELLA LOCOMOTIVA ALIMENTATA A ROCK N' ROLL L'UNICO VERO VIAGIO AL SOUND DEL ROCK PIU' PURO. Locomotive Breath è un programma di Rock Music in onda ogni Mercoledì sera dalle ventidue a mezzanotte sui binari di Stazione41 Web Radio. more

A weekly series of podcasts, delving deep into everything about The Band of Australian Brothers, INXS.News, album and song reviews, interviews with special guests including the band A interactive chat between a fan Girl and an INXS nerd, making it a fun look on INXS, from all angles. more

Eric Bernat and John Flynn are not just old friends, they are die-hard Madonna fans! They are counting down the days until the Celebration Tour (they're seeing it in September) and in the meantime, they wanted an excuse to dive back into Madonna's iconic tours and chat about them with their fellow Material Girl enthusiasts!To make this happen, Eric and John have recruited a different Madonna-loving friend to join them each week as they revisit a different tour in the Queen of Pop's legendary career. From the Virgin Tour to Madame X and all of the Blond Ambition and Confessions in between, they will leave no cone bra or disco ball undiscussed!Email us: TheCelebrationCelebration@gmail.comInstagram: @TheCelebrationCelebrationedited by John Flynnartwork by Dyna Moehttps://www.nobodyssweetheart.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. more

Every gig I have ever seen. Forty-odd years of thud, sweat and beers. Starting in 1977 and currently covering 1984, if you are a fan of Sheffield music from bands like Cabaret Voltaire and The Human League. Or you like Industrial and Post-Punk music in general, there will be something here for you to check out. I'm Roger Quail, I grew up in Sheffield and played drums with Clock DVA and The Box in this era.  more

Check out JW and Skinny as they discuss randomly selected concerts across the jam band scene! Each episode includes select audience recordings from the featured show, nerdery stats courtesy of JW, and Skinny's unmistakeable wit and humor! more

The Touring Fan Live, a show dedicated to the world of Music, Art and influential people. The show also includes interviews with leading artists, musicians, activists and so much more. Tune in to explore the magic of The Touring Fan. more

The Ugly American Werewolf in London is a weekly podcast about classic rock, hard rock, progressive rock, heavy metal, early MTV, 80s music, UK vs. US chart success and all things rock! Hosted by The Wolf and Action Jackson, who interview rock legends, review classic albums and concerts of their favorite classic rock bands each week. Once a month, they welcome musicians, writers and fans to First Concert Memories to tell about one particular night where a live concert changed their life. Action & The Wolf have an unquenchable thirst for knowledge of rock music and its history - tune in to hear what they're passionate about! Proud part of Pantheon Podcasts!  more

Het Zondagochtend Concert (https://www.npoklassiek.nl/programmas/het-zondagochtend-concert) is een serie concerten met toegankelijke muziek, op zondag rechtstreeks om 11.00 uur vanuit het Concertgebouw in Amsterdam. Beluister de volledige concerten in deze podcast! more

In de podcast van het AVROTROS Vrijdagconcert hoor je de mooiste concerten die wekelijks live worden uitgevoerd door het Radio Filharmonisch Orkest, het Groot Omroepkoor en gastensembles. 'Prelude' is de nieuwe opmaat naar het AVROTROS Vrijdagconcert. In deze afleveringen vertelt presentator Leonard Evers je iedere week meer over de bijzondere stukken die gaan klinken in TivoliVredenburg én op NPO Klassiek. Dat doet hij samen met verschillende gasten die in de studio aanschuiven. Aan de hand van muziekfragmenten (https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0HnaH8gzitGVB6zboIzgbu) word je warm gemaakt voor de mooie composities die je te wachten staan. AVROTROS Vrijdagconcert is een productie van AVROTROS in samenwerking met NPO Klassiek, NTR, de Stichting Omroep Muziek en TivoliVredenburg. Ga voor meer informatie over het AVROTROS Vrijdagconcert naar npoklassiek.nl/avrotrosvrijdagconcert (https://www.nporadio4.nl/programmas/avrotros-vrijdagconcert) more

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Acoustic performances and interviews with musicians from the Michigan music scene and beyond.

正聲廣播公司台北調頻台FM104.1優質節目「當音樂來敲門」，張翰揚製作主持，每週� ��00：00-01：00播出，歡迎收聽。 more

Toute l'actualité de RIFFX.fr, la plateforme musicale du Crédit Mutuel: brèves du monde de la musique, tremplins et découverte de jeunes talents, interviews d'artistes et d'organisateurs de festivals, nouveautés album. more

Welcome to Tales from the Green Room - Backstage conversations from popular music venues around the country curated by Mount Tam Media.Buckle up and listen in, as host Dennis Strazulo and Mount Tam Media founder, Tami Larson, dig up conversations with artists - before and after shows - in the exclusive confines of the green room. Barriers are down with stories abound!Tales from the Greenroom Special Edition (Sweetwater Music Hall's 50th Anniversary Series) Mount Tam Media is thrilled to launch its Tales From the Green Room Podcast with a special series of episodes celebrating the 50th Anniversary of the iconic Sweetwater Music Hall in Mill Valley, California. The roster of artists that have crowded onto the club's little stages, first at the original Sweetwater location two blocks away, and now at the new location which opened in 2013, reads like a Who's Who of roots & rock music: Bob Weir, Aaron Neville, Big Mama Thornton, Carlos Santana, Elvis Costello, Etta James, Greg Allman, Van Morrison… the list of musical luminaries is endless. In the 80's, the Times of London hailed Sweetwater as one of the best nightclubs in America and the legacy continues! Mount Tam Media has been granted special access to Sweetwater's green room during the venue's 50th anniversary year to interview musicians, photographers, managers and the like, and capture their favorite moments and memories, preserving the untold secrets of what has graced these hallowed walls for half a century, before they are lost forever. more

[IT] ?????????? è un collettivo artistico che organizza live showcase, una casa di produzione e distribuzione di programmi radiofonici, un canale in rete, un laboratorio di format musicali, uno studio di registrazioni audio-video, un ufficio stampa. Fondato a Torino nel 2002 da Mao, nel corso degli anni ha ospitato più di 1.000 artisti, risultando una delle realtà più longeve in Italia per la divulgazione della cultura musicale. Comune denominatore dei progetti targati CortoCorto è da sempre quello di essere appuntamenti a cui partecipano artisti affermati così come emergenti, tutti posti sul medesimo piano e soltanto con il desiderio di condividere un'esperienza di reciproco scambio.[EN] ?????????? is an artistic collective that organizes live showcases, a radio show production company, a music format lab, an audio-video recording studio, a press office. Founded in Turin by Mao in 2002, over the years it has been hosting more than 1,000 artists, resulting as one of the longest-running entity aimed at promoting music culture in Italy. Common denominator of the projects branded CortoCorto is the fact of being events where both well-known and emerging artists jointly participate, all placed on the same level and only animated by the desire of sharing a common and reciprocal experience.???.??????????.?? more

Saluuuut ! Bienvenue sur notre chaîne de podcasts de musique. On publie un épisode toutes les deux semaines sur différents sujets comme des décryptages de l'actualité, des revues de concerts, des challenges musicaux, des reportages de festivals et des entretiens avec des personnes du milieu.Si tu aimes nos podcasts et tu souhaites nous soutenir, n'hésites pas à laisser une note ci-dessous ! Pour nous contacter: wts.musicglory@gmail.comRéseaux sociaux: @wts.musicglory more

Le rendez-vous hebdomadaire dédié aux musiques émergentes, à retrouver chaque vendredi sur les radios Campus de FranceHébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations. more

Jon Jacob talks to artists, writers, and audience members about classical music.

Tadlai nossas pli novas registraziuns, intervistas cun cumponists ed istorgias da davant e davos ils palcs da concert. more

Blue Mountains Live is a Live Gig And Event Guide which covers live events from Penrith to Lithgow incorporating a Radio Program, a Facebook page and a Website with Gig Guides, artist, venue and organiser directories and regular reviews and photos and videos from the show.While in lockdown the Blue Mountains is not hosting Live Music, but there is still a lot going on. In this series of interviews local artists, event organisers and stakeholders in the music industry talk about how they are dealing with the change in their way of life. brad@braddiedrich.com more

Mixtures és un programa d'agitació musical que vol fomentar la curiositat per les músiques del món i redescobrir els clàssics de la música popular. Cada setmana Mixtures presenta quatre seccions fixes: la novetat, la descoberta, el concert i el record; on tot buscant la diversitat vol donar a conèixer el context que envolta cada proposta musical. Mixtures és un programa on totes les músiques són possibles. Un programa presentat i dirigit per Gaspar Tarrida. more

Experience a captivating radio-style live talk show featuring musical guests, exclusive interviews, and electrifying live performances. Stay up-to-date with the latest entertainment news, engage in exciting games, and indulge in other fun segments that will keep you on the edge of your seat. Join us for an unforgettable experience that will leave you wanting more. more

Insights and anecdotes from musicians, dancers, artists, actors and directors, as well as audience response.

JPR Live Sessions is a series of live in-studio music performances and conversations with artists from many different genres. The series is hosted by JPR Open Air hosts Dave Jackson and Danielle Kelly. Recorded in JPR's Steve Nelson Performance Studio, roughly 600 guests have appeared on the series, ranging from Brandi Carlile, Colin Hay and Rosanne Cash to OK Go, Bela Fleck and Jeff Bridges. more

Music and interviews from the majestic and mysterious Far North. Presenting original music from Indie to Alaskana to stellar Symphonic performances, the Alaska Music Podcast brings you music to match our mountains. Original artist interviews bring insight into the Alaskan music experience. more

Casual, intimate, and lively conversations with indie and roots music artists playing at Outpost in the Burbs, in Montclair, NJ - featuring exclusive concert recordings. more

With delightful tales and musical anecdotes from his storied career, Maestro Sir Donald Runnicles serves as host the of Live from the Grand Teton Music Festival, a series of 13 one-hour episodes. The series is co-hosted by GTMF's General Manager Jeff Counts, who previously hosted a film review segment seen and heard throughout the West. more

A podcast all about music.

Music has been one of the most important things in my life for close to 25 years. I have attended hundreds of concerts over the years and have witnessed the best and worst of concert behavior. This is my recount of those moments as well as some of my best albums I still love and listen to. more

Loveland Legacy an extensive collection featuring the very best sets recorded over the 25-year history of Amsterdam-based promotor Loveland.All sets are recorded live at our events and have been remastered for high quality sound. more

WERKEINFÜHRUNGEN MIT GOTTFRIED FRANZ KASPAREKSeit vielen Jahren bereichert und begeistert der über Österreichs Grenzen hinaus anerkannte Musikwissenschaftler Gottfried Franz Kasparek unser Publikum mit seinen fundierten und unterhaltsamen Werkeinführungen zu unseren Donnerstagskonzerten und Sonntagsmatineen. more

Listen to the world's biggest artists in conversation with KROQ hosts, recorded live every month in the DTS Sound Space at KROQ! Past guests include Jack White, The Black Keys, The Lumineers, Cold War Kids, Yungblud, Bring Me The Horizon, Dashboard Confessional, and more. more

Потрапити на рок-концерт улюбленого виконавця, почути наживо рок-зірку світової величини мрія, що зазвичай нею і залишається. Але ми, занурившись в історію рок-музики, відібрали найкращі рок-концерти, приправили їх цікавими коментарями, і пропонуємо вам насолодитися ними знову. У вихідні запрошуйте друзів, робіть радіо гучніше і слухайте 'Рок-концерт' на Radio ROKS! more

Unorchestrated is the Akron Symphony Orchestra's long-form podcast series, exploring a variety of topics with a special focus on the music and stories of under-represented musicians and composers.The podcast is co-hosted by Music Director Christopher Wilkins and Executive Producer Thomas Moore. more

We are a podcast all about the rock band Ween!! We talk about all things Ween: we review concerts we've attended from our 25 years of following the band, we discuss their albums, conduct interviews of fans, musicians and other special guests, and we'll cover basically anything else related to the band! If you love Ween, you'll love our podcast! more

Elbphilharmonie Talk der Gesprächspodcast der Elbphilharmonie

Pred vsakim koncertom Kromatike Simfoničnega orkestra RTV Slovenija se bomo poglabljali v izbrano mojstrovino s programa koncerta. V pokušino bomo ponudili nekaj odlomkov iz arhiva Simfonikov, pogledali v ozadje skladbe in se o tem pogovorili z gostujočimi glasbeniki. Gostitelja sta Primož Trdan in Lidija Hartman. more

Neuigkeiten und Talk rund um Beethoven, Musik und Orchesterleben

Les Lives enregistrés par Radio Grenouille. Qu'ils aient été joués dans le myhtique Studio Rouge, en extérieur ou dans les plus belles salles de Marseille et alentours, retrouvez les-ici pour le plaisir de vos oreilles et de celles à vos côtés.  more

Former cable show Recorded Live is now a podcast with local musicians and other members of the arts community.

En attendant le live, Cédric part à la rencontre des artistes avant leur montée sur scène.

Une exploration au tour la musique expérimentale à travers les mots des personnes qui la présentent a Infuse (concerts de musique expérimentale a Paris) Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations. more

Global Sonics is a publishing platform owned by Global Oslo Music. Established in 2008, Global Oslo Music was started with the main vision of becoming Oslo´s most active and current stage arena for live music with roots firmly based in, and reflective of the diverse number of world cultures found in Norway´s capital city and across the globe. more

Musik und Festivals sind für Jana und Max mehr als nur ein Hobby. Die beiden Moderatoren beschäftigen sich im Headliner Podcast mit der deutschen Festivallandschaft, dem Musikmarkt und aktuellen Veröffentlichungen. In Zusammenarbeit mit Partnern wie Rock am Ring, dem Hurricane Festival oder dem Open Flair entstehen dabei hautnahe Festivalberichte. Im Februar 2017 erschien die erste Folge des Podcasts auf YouTube, mittlerweile ist Headliner auf allen Podcast-Apps und Spotify zu hören. Zahlreiche treue Hörer:innen sind bereits dabei - hol dir jetzt den Zeltplatz nach Hause mit Headliner!Die Musik zum Podcast findet Ihr in der Spotify-Playlist 'Unterm Pavillon'. more

Poslušamo koncertne posnetke komornih zasedb mladih glasbenic in glasbenikov s koncertnih ciklov GML, GMS, AG, FL … in pripravljamo portrete vidnejših glasbenikov ali glasbeno-izobraževalnih ustanov. more

Laupäevahommikuti kell 9.05, kordusena pühapäeval kell 12.05Klassikaraadio esindussaade, nädala muusikasündmuste kokkuvõte more

Music was my first love. Anekdoten aus dem Backstage. Ein Leben voller Musik. Bowie, Zappa, Iggy Pop,ZZTop, Udo Lindenberg, Jan Fedder, etc. more