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aria-hidden=\"true\"><polygon class=\"mp-ic-play\" points=\"6 3 20 12 6 21 6 3\"\/><g class=\"mp-ic-pause\"><rect x=\"6\" y=\"4\" width=\"4\" height=\"16\"\/><rect x=\"14\" y=\"4\" width=\"4\" height=\"16\"\/><\/g><\/svg><span class=\"mp-listen-label\">Listen<\/span><\/button>\n        <span class=\"mp-listen-time\"><\/span>\n        <button class=\"mp-listen-rate\" type=\"button\" aria-label=\"Change playback speed\">1x<\/button>\n        <span class=\"mp-listen-bar\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/span>\n      <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    <p class=\"mp-p\">No, almost no podcast pays its guests. The exceptions are performers booked to entertain, shows that cover a guest's travel, and a small corner of the market where the money runs the other way. So the real question behind &ldquo;do podcasters pay their guests&rdquo; is which way the money is moving.<\/p>\n    <p class=\"mp-p\">That decides your next move. A host who offers you money and a host who asks you for money need very different replies, and both are quick to check before you commit.<\/p>\n  <\/div>\n  <div class=\"mp-toc-wrap\" id=\"mpTocWrap\">\n    <nav class=\"mp-toc\" id=\"mpToc\" aria-labelledby=\"mpTocLabel\">\n      <strong class=\"mp-toc-label\" id=\"mpTocLabel\">What This Guide Covers:<\/strong>\n      <ul class=\"mp-toc-list\">\n        <li><a href=\"#why-podcasts-never-pay-guests\">Why Don't Podcasts Pay Their Guests?<\/a><\/li>\n        <li><a href=\"#three-situations-podcasts-pay\">When Do Podcasts Pay Their Guests?<\/a><\/li>\n        <li><a href=\"#show-charges-you-to-appear\">Do Guests Ever Pay to Be on Podcasts?<\/a><\/li>\n        <li><a href=\"#when-paying-fee-makes-sense\">Should You Ever Pay for a Podcast Seat?<\/a><\/li>\n        <li><a href=\"#what-to-ask-for\">What to Say When a Host Brings Up Money<\/a><\/li>\n      <\/ul>\n    <\/nav>\n  <\/div>\n  <div class=\"mp-body\">\n    <section>\n      <h2 class=\"mp-h2\" id=\"why-podcasts-never-pay-guests\">Why Don't Podcasts Pay Their Guests?<\/h2>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">A guest spot is a trade, and both sides are paid in something other than cash. The host gets an episode built on expertise their listeners came for. You get a long conversation in front of people who chose to hear it.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"what-you-get-instead\">Guests Are Paid in Reach Instead of Cash<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Your side of the trade is concrete, and most of it is yours to ask for:<\/p>\n      <ul class=\"mp-ul\">\n        <li>A link in the show notes keeps sending listeners to your site long after the episode airs.<\/li>\n        <li>The recording becomes something to put in front of prospects, partners and press.<\/li>\n        <li>Clips give you weeks of social posts from one conversation.<\/li>\n        <li>A host who shares the episode puts you in front of their followers as well as their listeners.<\/li>\n      <\/ul>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">None of these is guaranteed, so ask for them in the booking email, before you record.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"why-shows-have-no-budget\">Not Many Shows Have Ad Money to Pay You With<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Paying a guest would turn that trade into a purchase. In our own podcast database, about 85 of every 100 active shows that accept guests and carry a listener estimate have no sponsor on record.<\/p>\n      <figure class=\"mp-figure mp-chart\" aria-labelledby=\"mpChartTitle\">\n        <p class=\"mp-chart-title\" id=\"mpChartTitle\">Active shows taking guests with a sponsor on record, by estimated monthly listeners<\/p>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">Up to 1,000<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:10%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">7.1K of 71.9K (10%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">1,000 to 10,000<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:19%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">6K of 31.5K (19%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">10,000 to 50,000<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:28%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">2.4K of 8.7K (28%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">50,000 to 250,000<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:36%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">1.3K of 3.6K (36%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">250,000 to 1,000,000<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:44%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">405 of 916 (44%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-chart-row\"><span class=\"mp-chart-band\">1,000,000 or more<\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-track\"><span class=\"mp-chart-fill\" style=\"width:43%\"><\/span><\/span><span class=\"mp-chart-val\">103 of 241 (43%)<\/span><\/div>\n        <figcaption class=\"mp-figcap\">Source: our podcast database, fetched Oct 29, 2026. Active shows (latest episode in the last 30 days) that accept guests and carry a listener estimate: about 116.9K, of which about 17.3K have a sponsor on record.<\/figcaption>\n      <\/figure>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Even big shows look like this: among shows with a million or more monthly listeners, more than half have no sponsor on record. A show without a sponsor can still earn from listener support or its own products, so read the chart as ad money, not total income.<\/p>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Treat every invitation as unpaid and judge it on the audience alone. A strong first booking looks like this: the show's recent guests work in fields close to yours, its listeners match the clients you want, and the host never mentions money.<\/p>\n    <\/section>\n    <section>\n      <h2 class=\"mp-h2\" id=\"three-situations-podcasts-pay\">When Do Podcasts Pay Their Guests?<\/h2>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Only in three cases: you're booked to perform, you're a regular, or the show covers your travel instead of paying a fee. If you're booked to talk about your business, your book or your work, expect no fee, and judge the invitation by who listens.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"booked-to-perform\">When You're Booked to Entertain<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Comedians, actors and musicians booked to entertain are the usual cases, often under a SAG-AFTRA union contract. Even then there's no minimum rate, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/business\/business-news\/video-podcasts-sag-aftra-1236517714\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Hollywood Reporter<\/a> notes that guests can waive the fee, as a star promoting a film or book might.<\/p>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">There's no standard price. Boxer Manny Pacquiao charged $15,000 per appearance through the booking marketplace Guestio in 2022, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2022-08-03\/podcast-guests-can-pay-big-money-to-be-on-top-shows\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bloomberg<\/a> reported. If you're booked to entertain, ask whether the show pays and under what agreement.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"appear-regularly\">When You're a Regular on a Union Show<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">A recurring spot is a different deal. Under <a href=\"https:\/\/sagaftra.org\/files\/sa_documents\/2022%20Independent%20Podcast%20Agreement%20(3.23).pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">SAG-AFTRA's podcast agreement<\/a>, a guest who appears routinely can't waive the fee, so regulars on union shows get paid. Those same union rules are what determine how much guests get paid on talk shows. If a host pitches a recurring segment, ask whether it's paid before you agree to the second episode.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"show-covers-your-travel\">Sometimes They Cover Travel Instead of a Fee<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Joe Rogan's show pays guests nothing, <a href=\"https:\/\/briankeating.com\/whats-it-like-to-be-a-guest-on-the-joe-rogan-experience\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Brian Keating<\/a> wrote after his 2023 episode. It still flew professor Jonathan Zimmerman to Austin to record, as he described in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.inquirer.com\/opinion\/commentary\/joe-rogan-covid-neil-young-spotify-20220209.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Philadelphia Inquirer<\/a>.<\/p>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Before an in-person recording, confirm who books the flight, whether a hotel night is included, and whether the show pays up front or reimburses you.<\/p>\n    <\/section>\n    <section>\n      <h2 class=\"mp-h2\" id=\"show-charges-you-to-appear\">Do Guests Ever Pay to Be on Podcasts?<\/h2>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Paid guest spots are real, and some are sold openly. That's what people mean by pay to play.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"what-shows-charge-guests\">Yes, and Prices Run From $25 to Around $50,000<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.eofire.com\/sponsor\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Entrepreneurs on Fire<\/a> lists a paid &ldquo;Featured Guest&rdquo; spot on its sponsor page without a price, where the guest picks the topic and the interview flow. At the top of the range, Dave Asprey's The Human Upgrade charged an average of $50,000.<\/p>\n      <div class=\"mp-table-wrapper\">\n        <table class=\"mp-table\">\n          <thead><tr><th>Show<\/th><th>What a guest pays<\/th><th>Source<\/th><\/tr><\/thead>\n          <tbody>\n            <tr><td>Shows PodWritten has seen<\/td><td>$25 to $3,500<\/td><td>PodWritten, 2025<\/td><\/tr>\n            <tr><td>Entrepreneurs on Fire<\/td><td>$3,500<\/td><td>Bloomberg, 2022<\/td><\/tr>\n            <tr><td>The Skinny Confidential Him and Her Podcast<\/td><td>$20,000 to $40,000<\/td><td>Bloomberg, 2022<\/td><\/tr>\n            <tr><td>The Human Upgrade<\/td><td>About $50,000 on average<\/td><td>Bloomberg, 2022<\/td><\/tr>\n          <\/tbody>\n        <\/table>\n      <\/div>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">The big-show prices come from a 2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2022-08-03\/podcast-guests-can-pay-big-money-to-be-on-top-shows\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Bloomberg<\/a> investigation. Some of those seats paid off: business coach Nick Unsworth told Bloomberg he spent $35,000 on two appearances plus 12 weeks of ads and made $150,000, though the ads were part of that deal.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"how-to-compare-paid-offers\">The Same Fee Can Buy Very Different Packages<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">The booking agency <a href=\"https:\/\/podwritten.com\/how-much-do-podcast-guests-get-pai\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">PodWritten<\/a> says packages can add a guaranteed release date, Instagram Reels or a newsletter shoutout, while a bare fee buys a recording and nothing else. Get the full list in writing and compare what actually reaches listeners.<\/p>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Watch when the money comes up, too. If a fee appears only after you've said yes, treat the invitation as a sales pitch. PodWritten counts a late fee as a red flag for exactly that reason.<\/p>\n    <\/section>\n    <section>\n      <h2 class=\"mp-h2\" id=\"when-paying-fee-makes-sense\">Should You Ever Pay for a Podcast Seat?<\/h2>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Sometimes, if you're willing to treat the fee as an ad buy and price it accordingly. But paying is never your only option, and most guest spots don't cost a thing. Our own database, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.millionpodcasts.com\/?_src=mp_blog&amp;_post=do-podcasts-pay-their-guests\">MillionPodcasts<\/a>, lists about 116.9K active shows with a listener estimate that accept guests.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"how-to-price-a-paid-seat\">Price It Like an Ad Before You Pay<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Media buyers judge ads by the cost per thousand downloads, or CPM. The calculator below works it out, along with how many new clients the episode has to bring in to break even.<\/p>\n      <div class=\"mp-calc\" id=\"mpCalc\">\n        <p class=\"mp-calc-title\">Fee-check calculator<\/p>\n        <p class=\"mp-calc-note\">Prefilled with an example. Change any number to recalculate.<\/p>\n        <div class=\"mp-calc-fields\">\n          <div class=\"mp-calc-field\"><label for=\"mpCalcFee\">Guest fee ($)<\/label><input id=\"mpCalcFee\" type=\"number\" inputmode=\"decimal\" min=\"0\" step=\"any\" value=\"1500\"><\/div>\n          <div class=\"mp-calc-field\"><label for=\"mpCalcDownloads\">Downloads per episode<\/label><input id=\"mpCalcDownloads\" type=\"number\" inputmode=\"decimal\" min=\"0\" step=\"any\" value=\"5000\"><\/div>\n          <div class=\"mp-calc-field\"><label for=\"mpCalcValue\">Value of one new client ($)<\/label><input id=\"mpCalcValue\" type=\"number\" inputmode=\"decimal\" min=\"0\" step=\"any\" value=\"3000\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n        <div class=\"mp-calc-results\" aria-live=\"polite\">\n          <div class=\"mp-calc-result\"><span class=\"mp-calc-result-label\">CPM (cost per thousand downloads)<\/span><span class=\"mp-calc-result-value\" id=\"mpCalcCpm\">$300<\/span><\/div>\n          <div class=\"mp-calc-result\"><span class=\"mp-calc-result-label\">Clients needed to break even<\/span><span class=\"mp-calc-result-value\" id=\"mpCalcBreakeven\">1 client<\/span><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n        <p class=\"mp-calc-formula\">CPM = fee &divide; downloads per episode &times; 1,000<\/p>\n        <p class=\"mp-calc-formula\">Break-even clients = fee &divide; value of one new client, rounded up<\/p>\n      <\/div>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">A fair price still doesn't guarantee results. Coffee company owner Rory Keel paid about $750 for a business podcast with roughly 8,000 downloads per episode, and told <a href=\"https:\/\/rss.com\/blog\/is-paying-to-be-a-podcast-guest-worth-it\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">RSS.com<\/a> he got a download spike but hardly any visits to his site. Judge any seat over the months after it airs, not the first week.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"signs-a-paid-seat-isnt-worth-it\">No, If You Spot Any of These Red Flags<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">Any one of these is enough to pass:<\/p>\n      <ul class=\"mp-ul\">\n        <li><strong>No numbers on request.<\/strong> The host can't or won't send downloads per episode from the hosting dashboard.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>A vague audience.<\/strong> &ldquo;Entrepreneurs&rdquo; or &ldquo;everyone,&rdquo; instead of who listens and what they buy.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>A late fee.<\/strong> Money comes up only after you've agreed to appear.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>A crowded paid calendar.<\/strong> Most recent episodes feature guests selling something.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>No disclosure.<\/strong> The host won't say on air that the episode is paid.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>No refund term.<\/strong> The agreement says nothing about your money if the episode never airs.<\/li>\n        <li><strong>An odd payment method.<\/strong> Crypto, gift cards or a personal wire instead of an invoice or credit card.<\/li>\n      <\/ul>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"how-to-measure-a-paid-seat\">If You Do, Track More Than a Promo Code<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\"><a href=\"https:\/\/resources.podscribe.com\/hubfs\/PPB%20Reports\/PPB%20Q4%202025%20-%20Podscribe%20Performance%20Benchmark%20Report.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Podscribe's Q4 2025 benchmark<\/a> found that codes and custom web addresses capture only about a fifth of the conversions it tracks. Use one anyway, read it as a floor, and ask every new lead where they heard about you.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"make-sure-the-show-will-disclose-it\">And Only If the Show Discloses It on Air<\/h3>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">A paid appearance is an ad, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ftc.gov\/business-guidance\/resources\/ftcs-endorsement-guides-what-people-are-asking\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">FTC guidance<\/a> says listeners should be told about a paid connection they wouldn't expect and would care about. Ask for the on-air wording in writing before you pay, for example: &ldquo;Today's guest paid to appear on this episode.&rdquo; If the host won't say something like that, walk away.<\/p>\n      <div class=\"mp-callout\"><span class=\"mp-callout-label\">Key Takeaway<\/span><p class=\"mp-p\">Pay only when the seat passes three checks: real download numbers, listeners who match your buyers, and an on-air disclosure.<\/p><\/div>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">If the break-even number looks unrealistic for that audience, keep your money and pitch free shows instead, using our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.millionpodcasts.com\/blog\/podcast-outreach-with-millionpodcasts\/\">guide to podcast outreach<\/a>.<\/p>\n    <\/section>\n    <section>\n      <h2 class=\"mp-h2\" id=\"what-to-ask-for\">What to Say When a Host Brings Up Money<\/h2>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">The first email about money sets the terms, so have your reply ready before it arrives. Each of these is short enough to send as written.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"host-offers-to-pay\">If They Offer to Pay, Get the Terms in One Email<\/h3>\n      <div class=\"mp-template-card\"><span class=\"mp-template-label\">Email template<\/span><p>Thanks for the offer, I'm glad to come on. Before we book, could you send the fee, what it covers and when it's paid, all in one email, so we're both clear? If the show works under a SAG-AFTRA podcast agreement, please mention that too. If we record in person, could you also confirm whether the show covers travel?<\/p><\/div>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"host-asks-you-to-pay\">If They Ask You to Pay, Ask for Their Numbers First<\/h3>\n      <div class=\"mp-template-card\"><span class=\"mp-template-label\">Email template<\/span><p>Thanks for thinking of me. Before I decide on the fee, could you share your average downloads per episode for the last three months, a short description of your typical listener, and how you'll tell listeners the episode is paid?<\/p><\/div>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">This reply asks for the three things a paid seat has to prove, so the answer alone usually settles the decision.<\/p>\n      <h3 class=\"mp-h3\" id=\"no-money-involved\">If No Money Is Involved, Ask for Links and Clips<\/h3>\n      <div class=\"mp-template-card\"><span class=\"mp-template-label\">Email template<\/span><p>I'd love to come on your podcast. I have three small requests: can I please get a link to my website in the show notes, permission to share short clips of our conversation afterward, and a heads-up when it goes live so I can share it too? Thank you.<\/p><\/div>\n      <p class=\"mp-p\">These requests are what an unpaid appearance pays you, so ask for them before you record. 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